Tal­mu­dic Ques­tion #51

Is it pos­si­ble that pro­to­typ­i­cal bac­te­r­ial en­dospores (e.g., those of Bacil­lus sub­tilis) carry out some meta­bolic ac­tivities, al­beit at ex­tremely slow rates?

 

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17 years ago

since no one's an­swer­ing I will take a stab at it. The an­swer has to be yes????

Peter Setlow
17 years ago

I just saw your Tal­mu­dic ques­tion on pos­si­ble slow meta­bolic ac­tiv­ity of bac­te­r­ial en­dospores — very in­ter­est­ing ques­tion, but also very Tal­mu­dic, in that I don't think we can an­swer it at present, al­though we can talk about it ad in­fini­tum. We need some new tools to mea­sure the me­tab­o­lism of sin­gle spores, and be sure that the me­tab­o­lism is en­zy­matic.

Elio
17 years ago

Elio's re­sponse:
Peter's com­ment is a mea­sured, care­ful re­sponse, as ex­pected from a dis­tin­guished sci­en­tist in the field (and oth­ers of course).
Judith's is based on logic. It seems eas­ier to as­sume that some­thing takes place that that it doesn't, even if prov­ing that the for­mer may be elu­sive.

17 years ago

Elio, I re­mem­ber some of the dis­cus­sion of VERY slow grow­ing mi­crobes within the cracks of halite crys­tals or within am­ber in­clu­sions. But I sus­pect that wasn't di­rectly mea­sured. I like to think of spores like tightly wound springs, ready for ac­ti­va­tion!

Melanie Berkmen
17 years ago

I be­lieve they likely do (some of the time). I seem to re­call a poster I just saw at the Prokary­otic De­vel­op­ment meet­ing from Si­gal Ben-Yeduda's lab where some­one did mi­croar­rays on spores of dif­fer­ent ages. They found dif­fer­ent mR­NAs present at dif­fer­ent times. Which sug­gests that some mR­NAs are be­ing de­graded (pos­si­bly en­zy­mat­i­cally) and/or some mR­NAs are be­ing syn­the­sized (def­i­nitely en­zy­mat­i­cally). I think these ex­per­i­ments were ex­am­in­ing spores only a few days old... but it sug­gests its pos­si­ble!
Elio's com­ment:
Thanks for point­ing us in this in­ter­est­ing di­rec­tion. It sug­gests — per­haps — that spores may "ma­ture" af­ter be­ing re­leased into the world. Maybe they carry out a lim­ited amount of meta­bolic ac­tiv­ity for a short while. A twi­light dream be­fore go­ing to sleep?